I have a coworker who is a die hard republican. He's a hard worker and smart enough to get into graduate school for a masters in history. What history they're forcing him to study and its applicability to what actually matters as far as what is important is up to debate and not pertinent to this post.
Today he was talking to another coworker about inflation being around 1.5% and I immediately thought this was wrong as I've stumbled across shadowstats.com in the past and recently watched the peter schiff video that will be included later in this post on the bogusness that is our government and both sides of the political spectrum being complicit in the lies.
He had stopped by my desk yesterday actually to talk politics and asked me if I was going to support Rand Paul to which I said I wasn't, but knowing his demeanor as it relates to politics didn't feel too keen on diving into it, but after his inflation comment (and peter's urging toward the end of the video to share said video with friends/family who are confused, interested in learning, or wrong about inflation) I figured I said him some things and comment further on the politics thing since I just left it hanging.
What follows is that email conversation. My text is in blue. His is red. The pink text is me, but after our conversation and just my own notes/not sent to him. Enjoy!
From: Brock Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:05 PM
To:
Subject: inflation is wayyyyy more than the 1.something percent you
mentioned that i overheard
Also rand endorsed romney and i don't agree with romney's two faced
ness and lies and so i couldn't support rand.
Also ron, in his farewell speech said for people to walk
away. "Trust Yourself, Not the
Government!" - Ron Paul
I am watching this now. Did Moroni or Mormon ever
just walk away even when the system was broken and people had given up on the
Lord. If we don’t attempt to support good candidates and stay informed we
will never rectify change.
One day I might just run for office and I hope you will be there.
yes. don't you remember mormon stopped guiding the
army?
One problem with continuing to vote for the current system is that
it is collectively based, in my opinion. Einstein said you can't solve a
problem with the same consciousness that created it. What is hard to own
up to in my opinion is that we are the only ones we can change. We
must be the change we want to see in the world. Moroni did warn us in
ether 8:24 to beware of THE secret combination. What is that
combination? President Ezra t benson said... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNMcD2IY_k
Oh I know about those secret combinations. Mormon did stop
guiding the army, but in Chapter 5 he returns to lead the people after standing
by to be a witness of their wickedness. (He didn't have to though, could've done it
from the sideline, and the Lord didn't ask him to.
In reality the Lord had already washed His hands of them after
getting shot down in verse 2 of chapter 3 of mormon, which was followed up by
verses 9-10 and verse 14. I think the definitive proof of this is
shown to us in verse 15. Any subsequent action by Mormon wasn't
sanctioned or condemned by the Lord and is even admitted/recognized as such by
mormon in mormon 5:2, but more likely Mormon's involvement was all that the
dude had done his whole life, i.e. a warrior since the age of 16 (Mormon 2:2),
and didn't have anything else he could've done anyways given commerce
would have been at a standstill in full on mortal combat.
An interesting note is
what I saw in chapter 5 in verse 2. The Lord's judgements were upon
them. Judgement based on what? The judgement of them embracing
THE secret combination, i.e. central banking and those powers that be and that
were talked about by john f kennedy For we are opposed around
the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on
covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of
invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free
choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It
is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the
building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military,
diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its
preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not
headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is
questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - John F. Kennedyand president benson
here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNMcD2IY_k, which once done and
according to President Benson ensured their destruction.
Interesting insight, mormon 4:5, "by the wicked that the
wicked are punished." In our continuing study/notes on THE secret
combination, it is both parties and both halves of the country that embraced
THE secret combination and have continued to do so up until now and so it only
makes sense that a huge civil war will happen dividing the country in half and
then having both halves take each other out.
Are we in the Mormon 3:3 moment of the quiet before the
storm? I feel like I've been shaken awake with the 2008 collapse being a
catalyst to waking me up to reality)
We can’t right off an inspired system that has been changed and
modified by those participating in secret combinations to garner power. (Why not? It
isn't even the same system anymore by your own admission!)
If good men do not stand up for constitutional principles then we
will not be able to make a difference. We need to pray for our leaders and be
active in the process so we can educate those who will listen.
I would recommend not righting it all off yet.
So how do you stand up for the constitution, your rights as an
individual without violence and without voting? If indeed it is a secret
combination that is in control of the government and finance, i.e. the central
banks that president benson so adamantly endorses as THE secret combination,
then any measure of voting for good and anything you do inside THEIR system is
doomed to fail, don't you agree? The way to do it is to stop empowering
them and walk away. If you walk away from their system and debt servitude
for LIFE via mortgages, student loans, corporate cog careers, and feeding their
system with leaving your money with them, then they fall w/o violence and w/o
voting in "new" people/parties. Did Jesus work within the
broken system? Did Ghandi?
I just don’t agree that walking away is the best response to a
broken system. We know the constitution is inspired by God as espoused in
D&C. We know from D&C we need to vote for and uphold quality
candidates that strive to live the principles of the constitution.
If we do not stay involved in voting, and educated others we will
never be able to rectify change. Ghandi and the Savior staid
involved. They did not walk away from the British or Sanhedrin but stood
up to them and worked to educate those around them.
They attempted to break the old system by introducing a new one, but
they had to fight, Ghandi almost giving his life and the Savior giving it.
I won’t be walking way any time soon, and would encourage you not to
as well. Change can happen.
Off to a meeting.
You said it yourself amigo. They introduced a new one.
Kidding aside they walked their OWN path of truth. Part of it
was, "its every one's duty to warn their neighbor", but really they
knew they had to do things completely different. They understood that one
couldn't put new wine in old bottles/skins, which is the same
thing that has happened with our political system, i.e. tea partyers
and others are trying to fix from within and it isn't going to
happen (especially when we've already sealed our fate by embracing
the secret combination and we know this via President Benson's proclamation
previously linked) .
You and I KNOW what is going to happen here. There are plenty
of legit/recorded prophecies that the country will be torn to shreds
through civil war and strife and warring in other countries. There are
some second hand prophecies detailing another political party coming
out, which may or may not be true. I think, this is my opinion,
but I think it is a mistake to assume when we think of "the
constitution will hang by a thread" and be saved means that it will be
done by either the republican/democratic parties. I do believe that
the IDEAS of the constitution, which aren't relegated to any political party
and especially democrats and republicans who weren't even in existence when it was created, are really what will be
saved by the members of the church. With that it is just another reason
to abandon the old bottles of the republicans and democrats.
I actually do agree that we ought to vote for candidates who
truly support the constitution and freedom. Currently we don't have
that. And by have it I mean it on a big enough scale/mainstream enough to
matter/effect real change. This was evidenced by ron paul getting
the shaft by his own party in the last election. I was the precinct chair for the republican party for my precinct at one point and went to the republican convention here in Utah. A motion was put forth by someone, at one of those microphones they put up at the front to ask questions or get motions started/proposed, to just have someone talk for FIVE minutes about Ron Paul, another republican presidential candidate. A vote was asked for and was struck down. When I saw this I couldn't believe it. That moment to me signaled that we were already gone as far as even listening to other points of view in this country.
Were romney or obama legitimately good for the country I would've
voted and I will do so for any future candidates. Romney is/was a
wolf in sheeps clothing though in his support for gays in scouting, not calling
out THE secret combination, which coincidentally much of his financial
support came from and is proof of him being a wolf in sheeps clothing, his
endorsing of our corrupt friend Orrin Hatch, his warped/illogical foreign
policy, which is actually worse than obama's and others and on and on and on.
So I'll extend this offer, if you can legitimately show me a candidate
that is worth voting for than I'd do it.
